Helen Joyce, author of “Trans – when ideology meets reality”, in discussion with Jordan Peterson, author of “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos”.
Available on video:
Note that YouTube has taken this video down, it is now available on Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OdJrzqBopQJX
And as a podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast/id1184022695?i=1000579214694
